Here are the records of two Alabama coaches. It's close, but there's a clear difference:
2007-2023: Nick Saban: Overall record 206-29 (.877) Conference record 120-18 (.870). Six AP national titles (2009, 2011, 2012, 2015, 2017, 2020).
1958-1982: Bear Bryant: Overall record 205-42-9 (.818) Conference record 125-25-5 (.823). Five AP national titles (1961, 1964, 1965, 1978, 1979)
The Alabama folks are going to miss Nick Saban a lot.
No other coach has more than four AP national titles.
ReplyDeleteI've decided that going forward, I will include Georgia Tech and Tulane in my version of the Classic SEC. Based on the CBS rankings, the current standings for the Classic SEC look like this:
ReplyDelete3. Georgia: 3-0
4. LSU: 3-0
14. Tennessee: 2-1
15. Ole Miss: 3-0
16. Georgia Tech: 3-0
17. Alabama: 2-1
21. Vanderbilt: 3-0
22. Auburn: 3-0
29. Tulane: 3-0
34. Mississippi St: 3-0
48. Florida: 1-2
60. Kentucky: 2-1
Here's the Classic Big 10:
ReplyDelete1. Ohio St: 3-0
8. Illinois: 3-0
19. Indiana: 3-0
25. Michigan: 2-1
41. Iowa: 2-1
47. Minnesota: 2-1
50. Michigan St: 3-0
61. Wisconsin: 2-1
69. Purdue: 2-1
79. Northwestern: 1-2
Here's the Classic ACC:
ReplyDelete33. Clemson: 1-2
36. S. Carolina: 2-1
40. N. Carolina St: 3-0
51. Duke: 1-2
56. Maryland: 3-0
64. Virginia: 2-1
70. N. Carolina: 2-1
77. Wake Forest: 2-1
The Classic SWC:
ReplyDelete7. Texas A & M: 3-0
10. Texas: 2-1
18. Texas Tech: 3-0
27. Texas Christian: 2-0
31. Baylor: 2-1
37. Southern Methodist: 2-1
42. Arkansas: 2-1
44. Houston: 3-0
80. Rice: 2-1
The Classic Big 8:
ReplyDelete11. Oklahoma: 3-0
13. Iowa St: 4-0
20. Missouri: 3-0
30. Nebraska: 3-0
39. Kansas: 2-1
67. Colorado: 1-2
68. Kansas St: 1-3
78. Oklahoma St: 1-1
The Classic Pac 10:
ReplyDelete5. Oregon: 3-0
28. U.S.C.: 3-0
35. Arizona St: 2-1
38. Washington: 2-0
45. California: 3-0
46. Arizona: 2-0
81. U.C.L.A.: 0-3
85. Washington St: 2-1
87. Oregon St: 0-3
88. Stanford: 1-2
My classic conferences do not represent a particular year or even a particular era. In each case, they represent my personal favorite lineup for that particular conference.
ReplyDeleteHere's my Classic OVC based on your personal-favorite-lineup scheme (applied to me this morning):
ReplyDeleteWestern Kentucky
Austin Peay State
Eastern Kentucky
Evansville
Louisville
Middle Tennessee State
Murray State Teachers College
Morehead State
Southern Illinois (never in the OVC but seems like it should've been some time)
Southern Indiana
Southeast Missouri State
Tennessee-Martin
Tennessee State
Tennessee Tech
Few of these schools play the highest-level football, and some play none at all, and I don't want to look up all of the records, anyway. But No. 1 WKU is 2-1; No. 26 Louisville is 2-0, and No. 130 Middle Tennessee State, 1-2. Murray State, which in real life plays in the Missouri Valley Football Conference, is 0-3.
I just realized that I got Morehead State out of order in my alphabetizing, but I'm not going back and correcting it because I have real mixed emotions about Morehead State (and Eastern to some degree) ever being part of the OVC.
ReplyDeleteThey should just be thankful that I included them at all.
ReplyDeleteI do keep a Classic OVC for purposes of basketball season. Here's how it ended last season (based on Ken Pom rankings):
ReplyDelete119. Middle Tennessee St: 22-11
142. Murray St: 16-17
159. W. Kentucky: 17-15
182. E. Kentucky: 18-14
274. Austin Peay: 14-19
304. Tennessee Tech: 15-17
327. Morehead St: 15-17
Since Tulane has now moved to the Classic SEC, the old Metro Seven is no longer viable for basketball season. So I am going to use a Classic Missouri Valley from the late 1960's for basketball. Last year, it finished like this (with Ken Pom):
ReplyDelete23. Louisville: 27-7
51. Memphis St: 29-5
55. Cincinnati: 18-15
58. Drake: 30-3
72. N. Texas: 24-8
95. Bradley: 26-8
106. Saint Louis: 19-14
134. Wichita St: 19-14
268. Tulsa: 13-20
For the record, when the NCAA Tournament started last season, the Classic SEC looked like this:
ReplyDelete2. Florida: 30-4
4. Auburn: 28-5
5. Tennessee: 27-7
6. Alabama: 25-8
16. Kentucky: 22-11
26. Mississippi: 22-11
32. Mississippi St: 21-12
34. Georgia: 20-12
49. Vanderbilt: 20-12
88. Louisiana St: 14-18
94. Georgia Tech: 17-16
138. Tulane: 19-14